Taylor Swift may collect BFFs with more fervor than Taylor Swift names Scottish Folds after TV characters, but she doesn’t really give a crap if she’s part of the “in-crowd.” In an interview with Canada magazine Fashion, she spoke about how she feels the pressures of having a posse of mindless followers and then just shakes it off:

“Celebrities surround themselves with people who don’t know what they want and only have you to validate their lives – that’s not interesting to me.

“You should not be threatened by women who are pretty and charismatic and good at what they do…my girlfriends have shaped me more in the past year and a half than any other factor.”

“You’ll never really feel like you’re part of the ‘in’ crowd, but growing up means that matters to you less and less every day.”

Despite the fact that, as Jezebel noted, this may be 10% intended as a jab at Katy Perry, it’s interesting to hear a celebrity call out celebrity culture and recognize the power of true lady friendship.

[h/t The Mirror]