Metal Gear Solid creator Hideo Kojima was so blown away by the Grand Theft Auto V PlayStation 4 trailer that it made him “depressed,” the industry veteran said in a new interview with CVG.

“What Rockstar has created and the world they have created is super impressive, and actually when I saw the PS4 version a few days ago I got depressed again,” Kojima said. “And this is not game design-related it’s just me. The quality that they showed in the PS4 trailer was really impressive.”

Last summer, ahead of GTA V’s release, Kojima said Rockstar’s open-world game made him “depressed” because he didn’t think Metal Gear Solid V: The Phantom Pain could reach the same level.

The Phantom Pain has been described as an open-world game–like GTA V–but this isn’t entirely accurate, Kojima said. “It’s a bit different because Rockstar is going in a very different direction to what I’m trying to create,” he said. “When we say we’re an open-world game it makes it sound like it’s trying to be the same as what those guys are creating. But this is very different–I’m trying to do a free infiltration game.”

GTA V launches for PS4, Xbox One, and PC later this fall, while Metal Gear Solid V: The Phantom Pain does not have an official release date yet. The 30-minute gameplay demo we saw at E3 will be published publicly tomorrow morning and we’ll be sure to post it when it becomes available.

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