It’s 2015. By now, reality TV is a young adult, but it hasn’t grown out of “The Bachelor” franchise. Despite its bizarre dating rituals, low success rate, and questionable racial and gender politics, the stable of shows is, if anything, more popular than ever. Do people love “The Bachelor” and “The Bachelorette,” or do they love to hate it? It’s unclear. But here at Here To Make Friends, we both love and love to hate them — and we love to snarkily dissect each episode in vivid detail.

In this week’s Here To Make Friends podcast, hosts Claire Fallon, Culture Writer, and Emma Gray, Senior Women’s Editor, recap the third episode of “The Bachelorette,” Season 11. We’ll discuss Ian’s epic flame-out, the two men who have declared their love for Kaitlyn and the Snapchat story that may have spoiled the season.

Plus, we’ll speak with former “Bachelor” contestant Leslie Hughes to get her take on the way the franchise deals with issues of race, and how she feels about Kaitlyn’s season.

You can check out our future episodes of Here To Make Friends and other HuffPost Podcasts on The Huffington Post’s Sound Cloud page. Thanks to our producer, Katelyn Bogucki, our editor Jorge Corona, and our guest Leslie Hughes.

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See Ian call Kaitlyn out for being on the show to “make out with a bunch of dudes on TV”:

The best tweets about this week’s “Bachelorette”…

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